The people that struggle most with discipline aren’t always Netflix-obsessed couch lovers. A lot of times, it’s very successful, high-achieving individuals that have a hard time with it…but why? Ryan Holiday would explain that it’s those people who have a tendency to be overly-disciplined causing them to risk things like health, happiness, and relationships. Ryan is the bestselling author of many books including Trust Me, I’m Lying, The Obstacle Is the Way, Ego Is the Enemy, and his latest book, Discipline is Destiny. He joins me for a conversation about striking the right balance of discipline, using “pullback” methods, and so much more!